{"id":166737,"date":"2024-07-02T10:16:21","date_gmt":"2024-07-02T10:16:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/herway.net\/?p=166737"},"modified":"2024-09-14T15:59:03","modified_gmt":"2024-09-14T15:59:03","slug":"una-donna-spiega-lassillante-paradosso","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/una-donna-spiega-lassillante-paradosso\/","title":{"rendered":"Una donna su TikTok spiega il paradosso di Nag e le sue conseguenze sulla relazione di coppia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Continuo a lamentarmi, a dirgli cosa fare. Lui continua a sbagliare, io mi lamento ancora di pi\u00f9 e continuiamo a litigare. Vi suona familiare?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La maggior parte dei miei amici ha lo stesso problema nelle loro relazioni, e <strong>non vedono alcun modo per sfuggire all'assillo. <\/strong>Some of them are \u201cthe complainers\u201d and some of them are the ones receiving complaints.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mentre pensavo a questo grande problema delle relazioni mi sono imbattuto in un video su TikTok. L'utente <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@thatdarnchat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">chedarnchat<\/a> A.K.A. Laura Danger ha aperto una <strong>discussion about \u201cthe nag paradox\u201d <\/strong>e lo definisce come:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201c\u2026a setup when one person is managing and delegating and decision making and standard setting\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Allo stesso tempo, <strong>l'altra persona ha un ruolo di supporto <\/strong>e aspettano che gli si dica cosa fare, che li si indirizzi e li si gestisca in casa.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Laura says this is very common, she even admits there\u2019s the same setup in her relationship:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cTell me what to do. How can I support you? Just let me know how I can show up for you.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Then she explains why it\u2019s a trap. When one person is in charge of everything and is forced to ask for help, then it becomes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Un'offerta di connessione<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>She refers to Dr John Gottman\u2019s bid theory as one of the key concepts of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gottman.com\/about\/the-gottman-method\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Il metodo Gottman<\/a> e spiega che si tratta di un'offerta quando:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201c&#8230; basically anytime you invite somebody to join you.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pu\u00f2 essere un invito a cena <\/strong>o<strong> <\/strong>pu\u00f2 essere un suggerimento per pulire la casa insieme o anche mostrare interesse per la sua giornata di lavoro.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Le persone possono <\/strong><strong><em>\u201cturn toward<\/em><\/strong><strong>\u201d, join the invitation, talk and be interested, or reject it<\/strong>, or even miss \u201cthe call\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Any attempt to engage with your partner, verbal or non-verbal is considered a \u201cbid\u201d. You can ask questions, talk about something, or touch them. The way you and your partner respond to these <strong>Le offerte possono cambiare le relazioni.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If your response is attentive you\u2019ll build trust, emotional connection, and intimacy, and foster deep and meaningful bonds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Rifiutare e mancare \u00e8 negativo per una relazione. <\/strong>If one partner constantly feels being rejected then they&#8217;ll become distant and will stop asking for a connection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>C'\u00e8 poi un'altra cosa di cui parla Gottman. \u00c8 il:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">I quattro cavalieri dell'apocalisse (delle relazioni)<\/h2>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1200\" src=\"https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car.jpg\" alt=\"donna che parla in auto\" class=\"wp-image-166919\" srcset=\"https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-12x12.jpg 12w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-728x728.jpg 728w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-960x960.jpg 960w, https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/woman-talking-in-a-car-1080x1080.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fonte: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@thatdarnchat\/video\/7285429027962195243\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">TikTok<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Alcuni comportamenti possono predire la fine di una relazione, ma Laura si concentra su due: <strong>La critica e la difesa sono i comportamenti principali coinvolti nel paradosso dell'assillo.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One person is always giving directions and instructions and \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cIf you don\u2019t get it right or if something else needs to be done, they have to give back feedback repeatedly.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Mentre <strong>the second person is \u201con the receiving end of negative feedback\u201d<\/strong> and even when they\u2019re only suggested how to adjust the way they\u2019ve been doing something so they do it better, it makes them feel undervalued as a person.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cominciano a dubitare di se stessi e delle proprie capacit\u00e0. <\/strong>Si sentono minacciati. Questo provoca difese, perch\u00e9 sentono il bisogno di proteggersi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cThis dynamic is a setup for that.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>After some time a partner who keeps getting negative feedback gets fed up. They decide they don\u2019t wanna expose themself to feeling miserable, <strong>feeling like they can\u2019t do anything right and are constantly letting down their partner.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Allo stesso tempo, <strong>il partner assillante si sente costantemente rifiutato.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quindi la cosa giusta da fare in una relazione, come spiega Laura, \u00e8 parlarne e non dare per scontato. <strong>Talk about the mental load, and agree on who\u2019ll be in charge of making decisions.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il fatto \u00e8 che molte coppie litigano regolarmente per questo motivo e la maggior parte delle persone crede che sia normale:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201c&#8230; the whole honeydew list, being told what to do, bossed around.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Allo stesso tempo, <strong>people who are upset about all this are being called \u201cnags\u201d<\/strong> e questo mina davvero la seriet\u00e0 e tutte le implicazioni che questo problema pu\u00f2 portare in una relazione.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Inoltre, l'opinione generale sull'assillo d\u00e0 alle persone un'idea sbagliata di cosa sia l'assillo in sostanza:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cThe idea of nagging is that somebody is needlessly upset about something that doesn&#8217;t matter.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This is far from the truth. Laura emphasizes how household labor MATTERS as it \u201cruns our lives\u201d, building a connection to our partner matters and it\u2019s not nagging. <strong>It\u2019s the call for partnership.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>\u201cWhat if the bid is something I don\u2019t enjoy?\u201d&nbsp;<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Oltre 1200 commenti sotto il video sottolineano l'importanza di questo argomento. Ovviamente, <strong>people can recognize their relationship dynamics in Laura\u2019s examples.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>ADHDWitch <\/em>was wondering what if she doesn\u2019t enjoy the bid? She gives an <strong>example of her partner\u2019s bid: to drive 45 minutes in one direction with kids to get food. <\/strong>Non \u00e8 molto piacevole, vero?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Un altro utente, <em>casa degli animali<\/em> shared the problem with her husband is basically \u201cthe nag paradox\u201d:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cMy husband thinks saying \u2018how can I help\u2019 is enough and when I say \u2018you should know what needs to be done.\u2019 He\u2019ll say \u2018make me a list.\u2019\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Another example perfectly describes what was Laura talking about \u2013 <strong>un partner \u00e8 assillante, l'altro si mette sulla difensiva:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cThen what do you do if your the &#8220;nag&#8221;?? Even pointing out this dynamic is just perceived as nagging and met with defensiveness. I&#8217;m so tired\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>A user Sera described the nag paradox with a never-satisfied perfectionist \u2013 no matter how much she does, her partner always wants more:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cI feel like both people in this situation because I&#8217;ll be putting in 200% effort. and the 80% person will ask me why I&#8217;m not doing 220%.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Per me \u00e8 stata una prospettiva che mi ha aperto gli occhi. Se ci penso, tutto ha senso! Assicuratevi di seguire questo consiglio e cercate di costruire un rapporto basato sulla reattivit\u00e0 e sulla comunicazione aperta, in modo da creare fiducia e legami forti.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Se volete approfondire il video, \u00e8 disponibile qui:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-tiktok wp-block-embed-tiktok\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" cite=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@thatdarnchat\/video\/7285429027962195243\" data-video-id=\"7285429027962195243\" data-embed-from=\"oembed\" style=\"max-width:605px; min-width:325px;\"> <section> <a target=\"_blank\" title=\"@thatdarnchat\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@thatdarnchat?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener\">@thatdarnchat<\/a> <p>The Nag Paradox &#8211; \u201ctell me what to do!\u201d \u201cDon\u2019t tell me what to do!\u201d<\/p> <a target=\"_blank\" title=\"\u266c suono originale - Laura Danger\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/music\/original-sound-7285429106215373611?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener\">\u266c original sound &#8211; Laura Danger<\/a> <\/section> <\/blockquote> <script async src=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I keep complaining, telling him what to do. He keeps doing it wrong, then I complain more and we keep fighting. Sounds familiar? Most of my friends have the very same issue in their relationships, and they see no way to escape the nagging loop. Some of them are \u201cthe complainers\u201d and some of them&#8230;<\/p>","protected":false},"author":40,"featured_media":166738,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_blocks_custom_css":"","_kad_blocks_head_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_body_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_footer_custom_js":"","_kadence_starter_templates_imported_post":false,"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[29814],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-166737","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-stories"],"taxonomy_info":{"category":[{"value":29814,"label":"Stories"}]},"featured_image_src_large":["https:\/\/herway.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Woman-On-TikTok-Explains-The-Nag-Paradox-And-What-It-Does-To-Your-Relationship-1024x576.jpg",1024,576,true],"author_info":{"display_name":"Tara Brown","author_link":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/author\/tara-brown\/"},"comment_info":0,"category_info":[{"term_id":29814,"name":"Stories","slug":"stories","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":29814,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":29651,"count":242,"filter":"raw","cat_ID":29814,"category_count":242,"category_description":"","cat_name":"Stories","category_nicename":"stories","category_parent":29651}],"tag_info":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166737","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/40"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=166737"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166737\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":166921,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166737\/revisions\/166921"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/166738"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=166737"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=166737"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/herway.net\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=166737"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}